ПЛАТОН И ДРУГИЕ СПУТНИКИ СОКРАТА.
ПЛАТОН,
и другие
СПУТНИКИ СОКРАТА.
Джорджа Грота,
ДЖОРДЖ ГРОТ,
автор «Истории Греции».
НОВОЕ ИЗДАНИЕ.
В ЧЕТЫРЕХ ТОМАХ.
Том II.
ЛОНДОН:
ДЖОН МЮРРЕЙ, АЛЬБЕМАРЛ-СТРИТ.
1888.
Право на перевод сохранено.
СОДЕРЖАНИЕ.
CHAPTER XII.
ALKIBIADES I. AND II.
Situation supposed in the dialogue. Persons — Sokrates and Alkibiades 1
Exorbitant hopes and political ambition of Alkibiades 2
Questions put by Sokrates, in reference to Alkibiades in his intended function as adviser of the Athenians. What does he intend to advise them upon? What has he learnt, and what does he know? ib.
Alkibiades intends to advise the Athenians on questions of war and peace. Questions of Sokrates thereupon. We must fight those whom it is better to fight — to what standard does better refer? To just and unjust 3
How, or from whom, has Alkibiades learnt to discern or distinguish Just and Unjust? He never learnt it from any one ; he always knew it, even as a boy 4
Answer amended. Alkibiades learnt it from the multitude, as he learnt to speak Greek. — The multitude cannot teach just and unjust, for they are at variance among themselves about it. Alkibiades is going to advise the Athenians about what he does not know himself 5
Answer farther amended. The Athenians do not generally debate about just or unjust — which they consider plain to every one — but about expedient and inexpedient, which are not coincident with just and unjust. But neither does Alkibiades know the expedient. He asks Sokrates to explain. Sokrates declines: he can do nothing but question 6
Comment on the preceding — Sokratic method — the respondent makes the discoveries for himself ib.
Alkibiades is brought to admit that whatever is just, is good, honourable, expedient: and that whoever acts honourably, both does well, and procures for himself happiness thereby. Equivocal reasoning of Sokrates 7
Humiliation of Alkibiades. Other Athenian statesmen are equally ignorant. But the real opponents, against whom Alkibiades is to measure himself, are, the kings of Sparta and Persia. Eulogistic description of those kings. To match them, Alkibiades must make himself as good as possible 8
But good — for what end, and under what circumstances? Abundant illustrative examples 9
Alkibiades, puzzled and humiliated, confesses his ignorance. Encouragement given by Sokrates. It is an advantage to make such discovery in youth 10
Platonic Dialectic — its actual effect — its anticipated effect — applicable to the season of youth 11
Know Thyself — Delphian maxim — its urgent importance — What is myself? My mind is myself ib.
I cannot know myself, except by looking into another mind. Self-knowledge is temperance. Temperance and Justice are the conditions both of happiness and of freedom 11
Alkibiades feels himself unworthy to be free, and declares that he will never quit Sokrates 12
Second Alkibiades — situation supposed ib.
Danger of mistake in praying to the Gods for gifts which may prove mischievous. Most men are unwise. Unwise is the generic word: madmen, a particular variety under it ib.
Relation between a generic term, and the specific terms comprehended under it, was not then familiar 13
Frequent cases, in which men pray for supposed benefits, and find that when obtained, they are misfortunes. Every one fancies that he knows what is beneficial: mischiefs of ignorance 14
Mistake in predications about ignorance generally. We must discriminate. Ignorance of what? Ignorance of good, is always mischievous: ignorance of other things, not always ib.
Wise public counsellors are few. Upon what ground do we call these few wise? Not because they possess merely special arts or accomplishments, but because they know besides, upon what occasions and under what limits each of these accomplishments ought to be used 15
Special accomplishments, without the knowledge of the good or profitable, are oftener hurtful than beneficial 16
It is unsafe for Alkibiades to proceed with his sacrifice, until he has learnt what is the proper language to address to the Gods. He renounces his sacrifice, and throws himself upon the counsel of Sokrates ib.
Different critical opinions respecting these two dialogues 17
Grounds for disallowing them — less strong against the Second than against the First 18
The supposed grounds for disallowance are in reality only marks of inferiority ib.
The two dialogues may probably be among Plato’s earlier compositions 20
Analogy with various dialogues in the Xenophontic Memorabilia — Purpose of Sokrates to humble presumptuous young men 21
Fitness of the name and character of Alkibiades for idealising this feature in Sokrates ib.
Plato’s manner of replying to the accusers of Sokrates. Magical influence ascribed to the conversation of Sokrates 22
The purpose proclaimed by Sokrates in the Apology is followed out in Alkibiades I. Warfare against the false persuasion of knowledge 24
Difficulties multiplied for the purpose of bringing Alkibiades to a conviction of his own ignorance 25
Sokrates furnishes no means of solving these difficulties. He exhorts to Justice and Virtue — but these are acknowledged Incognita 26
Prolixity of Alkibiadês I. — Extreme multiplication of illustrative examples — How explained ib.
Alkibiadês II. leaves its problem avowedly undetermined 27
Sokrates commends the practice of praying to the Gods for favours undefined — his views about the semi-regular, semi-irregular agency of the Gods — he prays to them for premonitory warnings 28
Comparison of Alkibiadês II. with the Xenophontic Memorabilia, especially the conversation of Sokrates with Euthydemus. Sokrates not always consistent with himself 29
Remarkable doctrine of Alkibiadês II. — that knowledge is not always Good. The knowledge of Good itself is indispensable: without that, the knowledge of other things is more hurtful than beneficial ib.
Knowledge of Good — appears postulated and divined, in many of the Platonic dialogues, under different titles 31
The Good — the Profitable — what is it? — How are we to know it ? Plato leaves this undetermined ib.
CHAPTER XIII.
HIPPIAS MAJOR — HIPPIAS MINOR.
Hippias Major — situation supposed — character of the dialogue. Sarcasm and mockery against Hippias 33
Real debate between the historical Sokrates and Hippias in the Xenophontic Memorabilia — subject of that debate 34
Opening of the Hippias Major — Hippias describes the successful circuit which he had made through Greece, and the renown as well as the gain acquired by his lectures 35
Hippias had met with no success at Sparta. Why the Spartans did not admit his instructions — their law forbids ib.
Question, What is law? The law-makers always aim at the Profitable, but sometimes fail to attain it. When they fail, they fail to attain law. The lawful is the Profitable: the Unprofitable is also unlawful 36
Comparison of the argument of the Platonic Sokrates with that of the Xenophontic Sokrates 37
The Just or Good is the beneficial or profitable. This is the only explanation which Plato ever gives and to this he does not always adhere 38
Lectures of Hippias at Sparta not upon geometry, or astronomy, &c., but upon the question — What pursuits are beautiful, fine, and honourable for youth? 39
Question put by Sokrates, in the name of a friend in the background, who has just been puzzling him with it — What is the Beautiful? ib.
Hippias thinks the question easy to answer 40
Justice, Wisdom, Beauty must each be something. What is Beauty, or the Beautiful? ib.
Hippias does not understand the question. He answers by indicating one particularly beautiful object ib.
Cross-questioning by Sokrates — Other things also are beautiful ; but each thing is beautiful only by comparison, or under some particular circumstances — it is sometimes beautiful, sometimes not beautiful 41
Second answer of Hippias — Gold, is that by the presence of which all things become beautiful — scrutiny applied to the answer. Complaint by Hippias about vulgar analogies ib.
Third answer of Hippias — questions upon it — proof given that it fails of universal application 42
Farther answers, suggested by Sokrates himself — 1. The Suitable or Becoming — objections thereunto — it is rejected 43
2. The useful or profitable — objections — it will not hold 44
3. The Beautiful is a variety of the Pleasurable — that which is received through the eye and the ear 45
Objections to this last — What property is there common to both sight and hearing, which confers upon the pleasures of these two senses the exclusive privilege of being beautiful? ib.
Answer — There is, belonging to each and to both in common, the property of being innocuous and profitable pleasures — upon this ground they are called beautiful 46
This will not hold — the Profitable is the cause of Good, and is therefore different from Good — to say that the beautiful is the Profitable, is to say that it is different from Good but this has been already declared inadmissible ib.
Remarks upon the Dialogue — the explanations ascribed to Hippias are special conspicuous examples: those ascribed to Sokrates are attempts to assign some general concept 47
Analogy between the explanations here ascribed to Sokrates, and those given by the Xenophontic Sokrates in the Memorabilia 49
Concluding thrust exchanged between Hippias and Sokrates 51
Rhetoric against Dialectic 52
Men who dealt with real life, contrasted with the speculative and analytical philosophers ib.
Concrete Aggregates — abstract or logical Aggregates. Distinct aptitudes required by Aristotle for the Dialectician 53
Antithesis of Absolute and Relative, here brought into debate by Plato, in regard to the Idea of Beauty 54
Hippias Minor — characters and situation supposed 55
Hippias has just delivered a lecture, in which he extols Achilles as better than Odysseus — the veracious and straightforward hero better than the mendacious and crafty 56
This is contested by Sokrates. The veracious man and the mendacious man are one and the same — the only man who can answer truly if he chooses, is he who can also answer falsely if he chooses, i. e. the knowing man — the ignorant man cannot make sure of doing either the one or the other 57
Analogy of special arts — it is only the arithmetician who can speak falsely on a question of arithmetic when he chooses ib.
View of Sokrates respecting Achilles in the Iliad. He thinks that Achilles speaks falsehood cleverly. Hippias maintains that if Achilles ever speaks falsehood, it is with an innocent purpose, whereas Odysseus does the like with fraudulent purpose 58
Issue here taken — Sokrates contends that those who hurt, or cheat, or lie wilfully, are better than those who do the like unwillingly — he entreats Hippias to enlighten him and answer his questions ib.
Questions of Sokrates — multiplied analogies of the special arts. The unskilful artist, who runs, wrestles, or sings badly, whether he will or not, is worse than the skilful, who can sing well when he chooses, but can also sing badly when he chooses 59
It is better to have the mind of a bowman who misses his mark only by design, than that of one who misses even when he intends to hit 60
Dissent and repugnance of Hippias ib.
Conclusion — That none but the good man can do evil wilfully: the bad man does evil unwillingly. Hippias cannot resist the reasoning, but will not accept the conclusion — Sokrates confesses his perplexity 61
Remarks on the dialogue. If the parts had been inverted, the dialogue would have been cited by critics as a specimen of the sophistry and corruption of the Sophists 62
Polemical purpose of the dialogue — Hippias humiliated by Sokrates 63
Philosophical purpose of the dialogue — theory of the Dialogues of Search generally, and of Knowledge as understood by Plato ib.
The Hippias is an exemplification of this theory — Sokrates sets forth a case of confusion, and avows his inability to clear it up. Confusion shown up in the Lesser Hippias — Error in the Greater 64
The thesis maintained here by Sokrates, is also affirmed by the historical Sokrates in the Xenophontic Memorabilia 66
Aristotle combats the thesis. Arguments against it 67
Mistake of Sokrates and Plato in dwelling too exclusively on the intellectual conditions of human conduct ib.
They rely too much on the analogy of the special arts — they take no note of the tacit assumptions underlying the epithets of praise and blame 68
Value of a Dialogue of Search, that it shall be suggestive, and that it shall bring before us different aspects of the question under review 69
Antithesis between Rhetoric and Dialectic 70
CHAPTER XIV.
HIPPARCHUS — MINOS.
Hipparchus — Question — What is the definition of Lover of Gain? He is one who thinks it right to gain from things worth nothing. Sokrates cross-examines upon this explanation. No man expects to gain from things which he knows to be worth nothing: in this sense, no man is a lover of gain 71
Gain is good. Every man loves good: therefore all men are lovers of gain 72
Apparent contradiction. Sokrates accuses the companion of trying to deceive him — accusation is retorted upon Sokrates 73
Precept inscribed formerly by Hipparchus the Peisistratid — never deceive a friend. Eulogy of Hipparchus by Sokrates ib.
Sokrates allows the companion to retract some of his answers. The companion affirms that some gain is good, other gain is evil 74
Questions by Sokrates — bad gain is gain, as much as good gain. What is the common property, in virtue of which both are called Gain? Every acquisition, made with no outlay, or with a smaller outlay, is gain. Objections — the acquisition may be evil — embarrassment confessed ib.
It is essential to gain, that the acquisition made shall be greater not merely in quantity, but also in value, than the outlay. The valuable is the profitable — the profitable is the good. Conclusion comes back. That Gain is Good 75
Recapitulation. The debate has shown that all gain is good, and that there is no evil gain — all men are lovers of gain — no man ought to be reproached for being so the companion is compelled to admit this, though he declares that he is not persuaded ib.
Minos. Question put by Sokrates to the companion. What is Law, or The Law? All law is the same, quatenus law: what is the common constituent attribute? 76
Answer — Law is, 1. The consecrated and binding customs. 2. The decree of the city. 3. Social or civic opinion ib.
Cross-examination by Sokrates — just and lawfully-behaving men are so through law; unjust and lawless men are so through the absence of law. Law is highly honourable and useful: lawlessness is ruinous. Accordingly, bad decrees of the city — or bad social opinion — cannot be law 77
Suggestion by Sokrates — Law is the good opinion of the city — but good opinion is true opinion, or the finding out of reality. Law therefore wishes (tends) to be the finding out of reality, though it does not always succeed in doing so 77
Objection taken by the Companion — That there is great discordance of laws in different places — he specifies several cases of such discordance at some length. Sokrates reproves his prolixity, and requests him to confine himself to question or answer 78
Farther questions by Sokrates — Things heavy and light, just and unjust, honourable and dishonourable, &c., are so, and are accounted so everywhere. Real things are always accounted real. Whoever fails in attaining the real, fails in attaining the lawful ib.
There are laws of health and of cure, composed by the few physicians wise upon those subjects, and unanimously declared by them. So also there are laws of farming, gardening, cookery, declared by the few wise in those respective pursuits. In like manner, the laws of a city are the judgments declared by the few wise men who know how to rule 79
That which is right is the regal law, the only true and real law — that which is not right, is not law, but only seems to be law in the eyes of the ignorant 80
Minos, King of Krete — his laws were divine and excellent, and have remained unchanged from time immemorial ib.
Question about the character of Minos — Homer and Hesiod declare him to have been admirable, the Attic tragedians defame him as a tyrant, because he was an enemy of Athens 81
That Minos was really admirable — and that he has found out truth and reality respecting the administration of the city — we may be sure from the fact that his laws have remained so long unaltered ib.
The question is made more determinate — What is it that the good lawgiver prescribes and measures out for the health of the mind, as the physician measures out food and exercise for the body? Sokrates cannot tell. Close 81
The Hipparchus and Minos are analogous to each other, and both of them inferior works of Plato, perhaps unfinished 82
Hipparchus — double meaning of φιλοκερδὴς and κέρδος ib.
State or mind of the agent, as to knowledge, frequent inquiry in Plato. No tenable definition found 83
Admitting that there is bad gain, as well as good gain, what is the meaning of the word gain? None is found ib.
Purpose of Plato in the dialogue — to lay bare the confusion, and to force the mind of the respondent into efforts for clearing it up 84
Historical narrative and comments given in the dialogue respecting Hipparchus — afford no ground for declaring the dialogue to be spurious ib.
Minos. Question — What is the characteristic property connoted by the word Νόμος or law? 86
This question was discussed by the historical Sokrates, Memorabilia of Xenophon ib.
Definitions of law — suggested and refuted. Law includes, as a portion of its meaning, justice, goodness, usefulness, &c. Bad decrees are not laws 86
Sokrates affirms that law is everywhere the same — it is the declared judgment and command of the Wise man upon the subject to which it refers — it is truth and reality, found out and certified by him 87
Reasoning of Sokrates in the Minos is unsound, but Platonic. The Good, True, and Real, coalesce in the mind of Plato — he acknowledges nothing to be Law, except what he thinks ought to be Law 88
Plato worships the Ideal of his own mind — the work of systematic constructive theory by the Wise Man 89